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Football News > SoccerBible Debate - John Terry stripped of captaincy!




Every week the SoccerBible engages in debate over football's hottest topics, and this week there was only one major issue up for debate - should John Terry continue as England captain? Well that debate is now elementary as John Terry has been axed as England captain!

Interestingly, after putting this question to the vote, we got quite an even response from our SoccerBible readers:

54% - John Terry should keep the captain's armband

46% - John Terry should resign as England captain

 

Understanding this was quite a sensitive issue, and not a debate that was just based on football, we presented the following arguments for and against whether John Terry should have led England at the 2010 FIFA World Cup. But now the decision has been made do you agree it was right to axe John Terry as England captain?





JASON BURT (The Telegaph) - "Senior officials at the Football Association have told Fabio Capello that many of them think John Terry should no longer be England captain. If “dressing room harmony” has been damaged by Terry’s affair with Wayne Bridge’s former partner, then his position is untenable."

JASON DE VOS (CBC News) - "There are unwritten rules in every sport, little reminders to athletes that the game should be played in a certain manner, with honour and integrity. In order to be an effective captain, you must establish trust and respect with both the players and the coaching staff. You do this by maintaining the highest standards of professionalism in everything that you do on and off the field. John Terry is going to learn the meaning of you reap what you sow."

HENRY WINTER (The Telegaph) - "I like Terry, the one natural leader in the England dressing room, a player so passionately committed to the cause of St George that he willingly endures jabs just to get his stiff back through games, but this really is an embarrassment too far. It’s time for him to stand down. Terry is not the type to resign, so this could drag on, a damaging plot-line in the drama of England’s 2010 World Cup preparations. Every press conference will experience detours down tawdry paths."



OLIVER HOLT (Daily Mirror) - "Are we willing to accept losing the team’s leader and our best defender a few months before the World Cup because he did not conform to a moral code? Some people will say ‘yes’, but if they wish to visit that sanction on Terry, why is Ashley Cole still in the England team when he cheated on his wife? The same thing applies to many others in the England squad. Why weren’t they sacked when they stepped out of line? Because let’s face it, most of them have. So if you want to sack Terry, you have to sack a lot of the rest of the England team, too. It’s all or nothing."

ROBBIE SAVAGE (Derby County) - "The debate seems to be entirely focused on whether John should lose the armband or not. If he was stripped of the captaincy but stayed part of the team would anyone look at him differently? So if he stays in the squad it might as well be as captain because people are not going to change their opinion. John Terry's talent as a player isn't in question. I've played against him many times and he's certainly one of the two best centre backs in the country. He's a brilliant on-field leader who showed his courage with the winner at Burnley last Saturday."

MARTIN LIPTON (Daily Mirror) - "Fabio Capello is veering towards letting John Terry keep the England captaincy if there is no steady drip-feed of further damaging allegations of infidelity, the Italian is prepared to give Terry his continued support irrespective of the public backlash it could cause. Capello, who has discussed the matter with assistant Franco Baldini, has been given assurances by FA chairman Lord Triesman and chief executive Ian Watmore that the decision is his alone."


JOIN THE DEBATE - WAS SACKING JOHN TERRY AS ENGLAND CAPTAIN THE RIGHT DECISION?


 

 

 

 


Comments

 

WerderBremen said:

he did so much more than not conform to moral code he cheated on his wife with his teammates partner he should be sacked off the whole team. Just because hes a brilliant footballer dosn't mean he shouldn't be bound to the same rules than constrict others.

February 3, 2010 12:05 PM
 

Ibra-Kadabra504 said:

Stevie Gerrard all the way baby he'll bring the title

February 3, 2010 12:51 PM
 

Ibra-Kadabra504 said:

Stevie Gerrard all the way baby he'll bring the title

February 3, 2010 12:51 PM
 

cronaldo9kaka8 said:

Yea I agree Steven Gerrard should be England's captain, John Terry is making the team look bad, so Steven Gerrard all the, if not then Rooney

February 3, 2010 12:57 PM
 

timmyjr25 said:

def. not steven gerrard if anything it should b a guy in the middle so id like to go to lampard, and rooney would make a good captain also, there was already talk about him being the back up one

February 3, 2010 1:02 PM
 

CHYTOULIS99 said:

You have to be something more than just a player to be England's captain.You have to be an icon.

February 3, 2010 1:05 PM
 

macca14 said:

NO he should be giving an award... you can't knock a lad for sha££in!!! he's only human after all

February 3, 2010 1:15 PM
 

Yuri said:

'' ...Beckham/Gerrard/Lampard all the way baby he'll bring the title !!! '' ³

February 3, 2010 2:45 PM
 

RIGO27 said:

The captain's armband should be given to somebody else but there is no need to sack him. He has done so much for English football. I do believe that the Armband should be given to a player with an untouched curriculum in and off the field.

February 3, 2010 4:37 PM
 

junyeoli said:

I agree with RIGO27.

Strip him of the armband, but don't sack him.

The captain of the team should be someone that the whole team looks to to organise the team and provide leadership (which is why the captain is usually the oldest member of the group).

As a further role, he should be a role model to the rest of the team, displaying an example of how to behave on and off the field. If his off-field actions are unsatisfactory then he doesn't deserve to be captain.

I think other possible candidates are Gerrard, Lampard and perhaps Rooney.

February 3, 2010 5:00 PM
 

Anders Stoen said:

If Terry does'nt have it, it must be Lamps or Gerrard who gets it!

February 3, 2010 5:18 PM
 

JG12345 said:

he should keep it!

he got the armbarnd for his footballing ability, not his relationships, that has *** all to do with his carear .n

February 3, 2010 5:55 PM
 

RossTorres169 said:

stevie g for captain

if he was i would support england for w.c,

February 3, 2010 6:05 PM
 

Im H8 Fanboys said:

to be honest who wants that man lifting the world cup? seriously

February 3, 2010 6:13 PM
 

holland said:

sack him! haha then Holland will have an even better chance of winning the world cup !

February 3, 2010 6:39 PM
 

WR10MUTD4lyf said:

***

February 3, 2010 6:43 PM
 

keeper10 said:

Rooney should get the band

February 3, 2010 7:42 PM
 

martincillo_mexico said:

beckham, gerrard, lampard or rooney !!!

goodbye terry

February 3, 2010 7:58 PM
 

The Special One said:

He should resign as captain, what he's done is absoultely unacceptable and he doesn't even get the media crucifiction Tiger Woods got. Why? Because he's white.

Terry should resign as captain but I have a feeling Capello won't take the armband from him.

February 3, 2010 8:08 PM
 

sb7cr9 said:

Rooney Should Be Captain!!!

February 3, 2010 9:50 PM
 

MUFC said:

Why did ashley cole leave training so early?

To get back to Cheryl before terry did .   haha class joke

Back to the stuff now errrm if ur gunna lead your country into the world cup then at least be some one people can look up to.

February 3, 2010 9:53 PM
 

MUFC said:

*The Special One-     STFU!!!!!!    Tiger woods had 6 god damn women !!  Im sick and tired of people bringin things up to be racist now shut the hell up

February 3, 2010 9:55 PM
 

MUFC said:

Anyone notice that it was CHELSEA players that messed up this time.  

Now im 14 but of course ive seen wen beckham got sent off in 98 if we go out to a CHELSEA player then i say we rip the crap out of him :)

As you can tell i HATE CHELSEA        

UNITED

February 3, 2010 9:59 PM
 

cronaldo9kaka8 said:

Look everybody is saying ***, I feel he deserves to be stripped of the captaincy because a captain is someone who leads on and off the field. My perfect example for a captain, Puyol or Raul, or Gerrard, or Giggs! And seriously guys, he *** his teammates wife, girlfriend, ex, dnt give a ***! And to add to it, she's the mother of Wayne Bridge's son! He's starting turmoil to the team, and ruining relations, he needs to be stripped of the captaincy.

February 3, 2010 10:28 PM
 

mightyhammer said:

@The Special One: what a joke, the media hype has been suppressed because of a gagging order. The order that was lifted means that pretty much only newspapers can really rip into him and write about their findings. Because they are still only allegations many "journalism" websites like BBC cannot really say much about it because they are allegations. Tiger Woods had a car crash because he was driving away from his raging wife who had found out about one of his affairs. Tiger also had more than one mistress, a lot more than one mistress so the two are not comparable. Also Tiger is a worldwide superstar and has been for many years, he is the best golfer ever, John Terry is nowhere near that prestige.

@MUFC

You have picked a bad David Beckham comparison, even so Beckham was accused of having an affair with his secratery. He, from the start denied the allegations and Poah forgave him and at the time it was a tough time for him because he had just moved to Spain and Victoria did not like that idea and wanted to leave... Beckham was also a likeable guy and had no other indescretions. Terry on the other hand has cheated on his wife many times, with teenagers and others including Bridges ex. As for your suggestion about the fact that he is a Chelsea player, it is plain immature but what can we expect from a silly 14 year old??? I am only 16 yet I can see the seriousness of such a matter so show some respect and dont comment so irrationally.

As for the captaincy... its tough but it depends if there is a dressing room split. It doesnt really matter whether we want him as captain, it is about who the players will listen to and be lead by. Terry is not willing to resign which makes matters worse so I think he will probably have to stay as captain unless there is a dressing room split in which case it will not be a simple captain or not question it will be a lot more than that...

Being captain of your country at a sport like football, you have to behave on and off the field. You are in the limelight whatever happens and you have to understand that, Terry is not a particularly likeable person due to his past indiscretions so it wont be an easy decision for Capello.

February 3, 2010 10:51 PM
 

cronaldo9kaka8 said:

I AGREE WITH MIGHTYHAMMER

February 3, 2010 11:15 PM
 

AE7 said:

Terry !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! jajaja

February 3, 2010 11:16 PM
 

F.A Cup Glory said:

 Terry should stay Captain...who cares what he's done....and who will replace him Steven Gerrard??? ha no chance he cant even talk standard English

February 3, 2010 11:36 PM
 

VillA 4LiFe said:

terry hes gnna feel like *** when they take his armband away, but they shuld still let him stay on the team cuz he is a very good player but what he did is just wrong cmon with your own teammates partner?? thats just wrong..

February 4, 2010 1:54 AM
 

Marco-pato7 said:

Pato is the best

February 4, 2010 7:17 AM
 

SPEEDY6 said:

terry should stay captain what he did doesnt av anythin to do wif his football

February 4, 2010 7:33 AM
 

macca14 said:

@mighthammer, good piece. its refreshing to see somone so young write an accurate mature piece. i'd agree with all you've said.

i'd like to add, terry should keep the captaincy. lets face it in this day and age with all the cash floating around football, most players don't care! reading the above the names being suggested Lampard, Gerrard, Rooney, etc none of which are innocent or indeed perfect rolemodels!. they've all had there moments in the press! gerrard, fighting in nightclubs, rooney, currently in a courtcase and not to forget cheating with a prostitute! and sweet and innocent Frank - ashamed during 9/11 on a flight to dubai and homemade movies with Kieron Dyer and co! hardly innocent are they.

now don't get me wrong this isn't a witch hunt, but you don't really have to look far to see a multi million pound footballer behaving badly. you could argue does it matter, the thing tha matters in on the pitch! will this hinder JT - probably not!

if terry does get stripped of the captaincy, i just hope Capello doesn't expel him completely! its almost amusing that Bridge is considering quiting - he's hardly the 1st name on the team sheet, almost as amusing as Luke Young international retirment!!

further.... if England lift the world cup, will anyone really care, absolutley NOT, FACT.

February 4, 2010 7:41 AM
 

football not soccer said:

i have so much to say on this topic but i know a lot of people who comment here don't read other comments first and often don't have evidence to back up what they say so if you want a REAL discussion about the whole Terry situation then msg me on my profile

also the best headline on the topic: "Opinion split on Terry-ble act" :P

February 4, 2010 10:38 AM
 

RONALDO9 said:

maybe i think he should be judged on his football not his life but he did something really bad

February 4, 2010 11:16 AM
 

thenextnumber7 said:

after all no one can do a better job as captain for england. he should stay

February 4, 2010 1:16 PM
 

citrussoccerballer said:

he doesnt deserve it anymore

February 4, 2010 3:17 PM
 

dan said:

take it off him. but leave him on the team. he has got talent but needs a chance to earn his respect back. Gerrard would be my first choice by a long way. Rooney will definatley get his chance later in his career.

February 5, 2010 5:59 AM
 

MorganHassall said:

If he hadnt of been "caught" he would still have it so who knows how long how long its been going on for. also giving it to a fellow teamate is going to make the matter worse due to the fact of them feeling aquward wearing it, theres a reason he wore it because he has experience there are no other players that can step up to the international captains role

February 5, 2010 12:33 PM
 

macca14 said:

yeah give it to gerrard!! he's such a perfect role model for the kids of today????

February 5, 2010 1:07 PM
 

ARSENAL RULE said:

I THINK BECKS IS THE MAN FOR THE JOB!

February 6, 2010 11:47 AM
 

JOEYBOY said:

TERRY = LEGEND

should still be captain, nearly every england player has done something wrong off the pitch, ferdinand dont turn up for drugs tests, ashley cole slept about, lampard slept about, gerrard loves a fight in nightclubs and rooney sleeps with old women in brothels.

But then again it dnt matter whos captain as long as we win the World cup

February 6, 2010 4:37 PM
 

gak8 said:

go rooney

February 6, 2010 10:55 PM
 

FulhamFTW said:

The question I think we all want answered is how the hell John Terry is in the limelight for having sex with anyone. I mean, he's a good player, but cmon, he's no male model. Bridge should be more embarassed by the fact that it was with John Terry and not someone like Beckham. And him losing the captaincy is a no-brainer. He doesn't deserve it. And he should allow Bridge a free kick to the nuts for punishment.

February 7, 2010 1:03 AM
 

cronaldo9kaka8 said:

I hope Gerrard gets captaincy and Lampard doesn't deserve bcuz he doesn't do enough on the pitch like Gerrard to get captaincy, and everybody needs to shut the *** up about Gerrard fighting in the club, who doesn't fight these days!!! Everybody fights or gets into a scuffle, it happens! Gerrard is the best choice.

February 7, 2010 3:12 AM
 

jamesfootballkid09 said:

Nooooo! only ***heads would give him the sack, not only are they stripping the real captian of his role but they stripping the team of their heart and soul right there ! GO TERRY  : ]

February 8, 2010 11:13 AM
 

macca14 said:

shock Cronaldo9kaka8 is talking rubbish!! so if anyone can fight and be a disgrace!! is shouldn't matter about the offence!! clown!!

February 8, 2010 1:21 PM
 

Nubkakes said:

seriously guys? its Wayne's FORMER partner retards. why get so worked up about his old partner. not his partner right now. he's one of the only good enough people to be captain so everyone shut up about JT

February 8, 2010 10:51 PM
 

cronaldo9kaka8 said:

macca14- i'm saying that everybody has their mistakes and u can't honestly tell me dat u have never fought in ur life? Dude shut the *** up people make mistakes and you made a big one talking *** to me, if this argument was in person I'd have u scared like ***

February 10, 2010 3:41 AM
 

macca14 said:

hahahahahaha, oh i think i've just pooped in my pants!!!! your a clown mate and your agrument has no substance. everyone makes mistakes - correct! therefore JT has made his, therefore keep him as captain. gerrard made his as well so fair enough!! i think it has more to do with you fancying gerrard!!!!

February 10, 2010 12:59 PM
 

t.r chelsea said:

we dont care we need Jt for chelsea he will only go injure himself for england who get all the hype ut never win anything do the forget the world cup they aint going to win they cant even beat brazil who a faviorite but who are off form if i was jt i would not give a *** . gerrard is not captain material jt is the only leader jt can do what ever the hell he likes its nothing to do with the papers.if you made a mistake you will get a second chance so y cant jt anyone who finks jt is not a good captain is a mug who probably sits there  watching footy but not having a clue whats going on if you go to stamford bridge and watch jt you can see what a good player and leader he is.terry the best defender england got gerrard gets away with fighting which is allegal and gets away without a sentence and jt has an affair legal and gets ripped apart by .people taling out there *** can do one and shut the hell up

February 19, 2010 10:39 PM
 

t.r chelsea said:

nubckes or whatever rooney fat head mug shreks ugly identical twin fat retard jt legend mate !!! your talking shitt

February 19, 2010 10:43 PM
 

copa mundial kid said:

no way john terry should keep it he is meant to be a role model for young people and shouldn't be sleeping around with his former best friends wife, england need a captain with no prestige off the pitch but a great footballer, how can ferdinand get it it has taken drugs what great role model even gerrard shouldn't have it after his actions in tht night club its gotta to be rooney or lampard or david james

February 21, 2010 1:12 AM
 

splsoccer8 said:

good desicion??!!

April 1, 2010 12:11 AM
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